When I talk about durability issues, I'm talking about issues like faulty ports, weak jack port, weak keyboard that breaks after a year, etc. Internal hardware itself, hinges, screens, etc, evolved a lot in durability even in consumer-grade laptops, but the faulty or weak components are always a pain.

>but refurbished ones are a few generations behind I don't give a fuck, just explain me where to buy them CHEAPLY!

>>1297 Varies a lot between countries. Your best bet is to look up "refurbished laptops" and see what shops in your country show up. If you are lucky there should be a few stores in your country dedicated to refurbished hardware and e-waste and they often sell 8th gen intel business-class laptops. Price ranges between 200€ and 600€ depending on the laptop and store.

>>1298 Note for the future: avoid HP Zbooks with 45% NTSC once companies dispose of them and they start showing in refurbished hardware stores. The Zbook I work at my company has a temporary burn-in despite having an LCD screen, anything that stays for too long gets burned into the screen and slowly fades away. The 100% sRGB Zbooks might or might not have this problem but it's less likely

>>1298 Is it reasonable to expect something good from refurbished 10th gen intel?

>>1300 Hardware lifespan is much higher than typical consumer-grade laptops if we're talking about refurbished business laptops. The laptop overall is sturdier and meant to last. Normally when you buy them second-hand it's safe to assume you might want to replace the SSD and battery, but when they are refurbished they might come with fresh ones. A quick way to suspect it's a business laptop is if the store refurbishing them only provides laptops from dell, hp and lenovo, and they all have intel cpus

>>1301 Most common business laptops currently in refurbished stores include think pad T/X/P series, hp elitebooks and dell latitudes

I want 11 gen i5 with 16gb ram

>>1303 There are some business laptops being refurbished with that intel generation but most are still in 8th gen

My Slimbook Evo arrived today and it's great. The internal hardware is very modular and the external components (keyboard etc) seem sturdy. Screen is amazing though it has a bit of a yellowish tint, I fixed that with xcalib but that also means that now I'm bound to x11 since Wayland is not anywhere close to having a solution that allows you to adjust screen RGB balance manually. Gaming is also crazy with the Radeon 780M and the 120hz screen. It is a high resolution retina display (2560x1600), and so if I ever have performance issues I can play at fullhd and the blurryness caused by upscaling will not be very noticeable due to the DPI, but even at native resolution I have more performance than I would have at fullhd with the intel iris xe. The BIOS has plenty of options, including charging power as well as charging limits. Alpine Linux is working perfectly well, I just had to replace the intel packages and firmware with the equivalent AMD packages.

is this advertisement? Also needs to be compared to frameworks by somebody with enough money

>>1395 It's not advertisement, I just want people to know about durable laptop alternatives to refurbished laptops

>>1396 slimbook site looks like shit. Frameworks' site is at least tolerable also why do you compare refurbished to brand new

>>1397 I didnt elaborate I meant to compare business laptop durability and repairability with slimbook's since usually we get refurbished business laptops when we want one of that type

>>1291 I'm personally a fan of my Dell Latitude 5420. I paid 400 USD for 512GB of NVME Storage, Fingerprint reader, 16GB Ram, built-in wifi, pretty good repairability, plus a fuckton of I/O

>>1399 That's the great thing about business laptops like the latitudes and the thinkpads it's very nice

I've been using the Slimbook since it arrived in tuesday and I can conclude that the battery bypass feature is not placebo. The idea is that, once the charge limit is reached, the charging goes straight to the hardware and bypasses the battery to save its lifespan. After intense use of this laptop since tuesday + gaming, the battery cycle count is still at 0!!! I wonder any mainstream brand does this